Sen. Feingold Defends Public Plan, Admits Ultimate Goal is Single-Payer
Morgen on June 18, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) spoke from the Senate floor today, in strong support of the public plan. According to Sen. Feingold, the public plan is the “most important element” of any reform legislation. Watch:
In case there remains any doubt as to why the public plan is so critically important to the liberal Democrats driving the health reform agenda, let’s wind the clock back to May 12 of this year and listen to what Sen. Feingold had to say in an interview with the liberal media group Democracy Now!:
…I believe the goal here is to create whatever legislation we have in a way that could be developed into something like a single-payer system.
In the past week the President of the U.S. and his Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius have both publicly denied that the public plan is intended in any way to be a trojan or stalking horse for a single-payer system. The President went so far as to claim that anyone who says this is lying. Well Mr. President, was Russ Feingold lying about this? Was Kathleen Sebelius lying about this? Was Rep. Jan Schakowsky lying about this?
You know, if the stakes weren’t so critically important I’d probably just chalk this up as typical spin-making on the part of politicians. But healthcare represents something like 20% of our economy and we are literally talking about an issue of life and death. For our children and grandchildren…and perhaps more importantly our parents and grandparents. Because it is the elderly that will suffer the most under the rationing that will inevitably result when the financial reckoning comes. I am not willing to just sit back and watch this happen as an innocent bystander. These people are outright lying to us about their real intentions. And I am going to keep calling them on it until the public plan goes down in the defeat it so rightly deserves!
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June 25, 2009 @ 11:16 amThe whole “single payer” issue of course is myth!!!
Or so we’re told by the “Denialism” blog over at Science Blogs via Mark Hoofnagle, and dozens of other left-of-center outlets who’re OUTRAGED–just OUTRAGED–that some cretins like us on the Right would deign to accuse the new administration and Congress of wiggling something into law that emulates “socialized medicine”.
Enough of the “name-calling”, so they said.
And yet somehow the TRUE TRUTH comes out in the wash.
Once again, VS is one of the few sites to actually jump on stories and pull the full monty out of them.
Like my poor mama used to say, like a duck on a junebug.
Good work.
Single Payer it is. And always was.
June 29, 2009 @ 6:52 pm[...] is a bait-and-switch that will lead eventually to single-payer. Secretary Sebelius, Senator Feingold, and others have suggested that over time private health insurance should be supplanted [...]
July 7, 2009 @ 2:25 pmThese Democrats are all criminals and will be voted out soon.
14% approval rating!
August 2, 2009 @ 7:34 pmAs misguided as Feingold is, it will be nothing short of a miracle to vote this liberal of a person out of office in Wisconsin.
August 9, 2009 @ 12:50 pmApparently most people in Wisconsin are extremely wealthy and can afford to pay for ObamaCare…
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December 23, 2009 @ 8:06 am[...] As Sen. Russ Feingold said back in the summer (and repeated again two weeks back), …I believe the goal here is to create whatever legislation we have in a way that could be developed into something like a single-payer system. [...]
January 13, 2010 @ 7:18 amwow i see so much misinformation on here… some general comments:
1) the current legislation is nowhere near single payer. Single payer is essentially the same thing as what we have for the fire department or police department or public libraries. Everybody pays a certain amount through taxes, and then people go to the doctor etc whenever they need it. The money goes directly to the doctors, hospitals etc you want to go visit. No copays. No deductibles. No forms to fill out. Unlike now, what you pay actually goes towards healthcare. And people who abuse the services will be fined. You can go to whichever doctor you want. The doctors will be paid on health outcomes (how well they keep you healthy) and not the amount of treatments your doctor orders for you, which will automatically lower costs while ensuring better health outcomes.
2) Single payer systems exist in every single industrialized country in the world EXCEPT the US…the reason is it just makes sense. For example, in Canada, costs were starting to get way too high with a similar system as us, and as soon as one district switched to Single Payer, they found it made a world of difference in price AND outcomes, and almost everybody was more satisfied than the older system. And within a short time every single district in Canada voted for Single Payer.
3) These other countries ALL have about 1/2 the cost of healthcare and yet have significantly better outcomes than the United States.
4) Right now we all pay about 30-50% for:
-unnecessary insurance company bureaucracy, advertising, and profits.
-the uninsured who end up going to the emergency room because they did not have the means to pay for preventative care until the condition became an emergency. This costs each person who has insurance more than $1000 per year in higher insurance premiums. If the insured instead paid entirely for preventative care, they would actually have to pay less (and yet this insurance bill currently in congress will require those people who dont pay for insurance to pay, but helping them with some subsidies.)
-higher drug prices due to lack of negotiating power (under single payer, there would be ways to negotiate the greater amount of customers with better drug prices)
-the thousands of people the insurance companies hire to find loopholes to refuse insurance or payment for people who already have their insurance (The companies are not evil, their job is to make money, but the problem is that the structure of incentives are not in providing healthcare, but instead denying it.)
-wallets of the rich insurance company executives
PS: I am a republican, but healthcare is essential to our security and well-being, and the government doesnt even control anything by making single-payer healthcare possible…it frees up and allow doctors and hospitals to treat you without worrying about whether you can afford the treatment or how they’re going to be paid. If you think the police or fire department are socialist plots, then you need some medication. If you think this kind of system will kill off private insurance, then you you need some logic…private schools are very profitable and doing well despite public schools, fed-ex and ups are doing fine despite the postal service, and private security guards still guard your local bank despite the existence of the police department.
Truth people…please look for truth! rather than believing things you hear or watch on TV, without checking out the REALITY (facts) for yourselves.
March 2, 2010 @ 1:53 amThis also applies to everything I just said. You can actually go look up everything i just said, and I urge you to do so.