Kathleen Sebelius: I’m All For A Single-Payer System…Eventually
Morgen on May 11, 2009 at 2:22 am
I’m beginning to think the Democrats aren’t being completely honest with us regarding their agenda for healthcare reform. By now, you’ve probably seen the video of Jan Schakowsky admitting that the Obama healthcare plan will ultimately destroy the private insurance industry.
Well just take a look at what Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius had to say in 2007 about her strategy for “closing the gap” towards a single-payer plan run by the federal government:
If Sebelius really believes that the “better cause” is to move towards single-payer, why doesn’t she just come out and say so now? The truth is that the Democrats backdoor to single-payer (the public-plan “option”) is hanging by a thread with moderate Democrats. And they are desperately trying to frame the debate around “choice” and “competition”. Unfortunately, given Obama’s popularity and the numbers the Democrats have in Congress, they still probably have a pretty good shot at pulling this off. But it’s becoming more and more clear what their long-term agenda really is.
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a liberal who is not honest about their real goals?… you must be kidding us!… that never happens.
May 11, 2009 @ 8:59 amOOPS, someone got a butt chewing for saying this so early in the messiah’s administration. 600 billion for a down payment on universal government run health care. Now social security and medicaid are going to be completely broke sooner than was expected. Government run, government ruined. Does any moron out there actually believe the government can run anything right? You see, they feel they can because the government does not have to worry about things like, not having enough money to get thru the next week or insurance or bureaucratic red tape. They just enact a law or orders and here we go with a new agency or an emergency to get this done right now. When you can put the blame on someone or something else besides the crooks whom are actually going thru with it, everyone seems to think, “well Barry O is a really cool guy and it wasn’t his fault he had to pay back people who got him where he is today, so this is okay by me”, and I can always blame Bush, yea that’s it blame Bush. Bush was not my favorite president, but to Hussein he is the best to ever exist. Question: Why would anyone want socialism?
May 12, 2009 @ 8:30 ammmmmmmnnnnnnnnn, government cheese.
May 12, 2009 @ 3:14 pmReally? You’re going to make dishonesty in politics a partisan issue? Huh.
Again and again you guys have this “our shit don’t stink” attitude.
What is that about?
Personally, I think that one of the moral failings of the right is loyalty to the point of being delusional. Conversely, I see liberals as being just-minded to the point of being delusional.
But maybe that’s too even handed for this blog.
May 13, 2009 @ 3:45 pmHey, I offered you an opportunity to explain how Bush lied us into a war for oil and you didn’t take it. If our shit stinks you need to make the case yourself. I’m not going to do it for you. If I believed what you’re saying I wouldn’t be on this side of the argument, right? So the failure here is yours, not ours.
Convince me.
May 13, 2009 @ 4:19 pmOkee dokee, some quotes and some links:
In the Bush administration “the negation of truth is so systematic. Dishonest accounting, willful scientific illiteracy, bowdlerized federal fact sheets, payola paid to putative journalists, ‘news’ networks run by right-wing apparatchiks, think tanks devoted to propaganda rather than thought, the purging of intelligence gatherers and experts throughout the bureaucracy whose findings might refute the party line — this is the machinery of mendacity…The point here is not the hypocrisy involved, though that is egregious. The point is the downgrading of truth and honesty from principles with universal meaning to partisan weapons to be sheathed or drawn as necessary. No wonder the Bush administration feels no compunction to honor the truth or seek it; it conceives truth as a tactic, valuable only insofar as it is useful against one’s enemies.” Russ Rymer
Here you go:
http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline
In 2008, as the nation marked the 5th anniversary of the war in Iraq, the Center for Public Integrity found 935 false statements made by President Bush and seven top officials in the two years following September 11, 2001, concluding that the administration waged an orchestrated campaign to mislead the country to war.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/projects/entry/276/
OK, so here are some resources that spell out his lie record quite clearly I think. Now I would like to make a little prediction:
I predict that you will find these resources wanting. I predict that you will label them “liberal” or “propaganda” and right them off. Either that or you will systematically go over each of those 935 lies and explain them away as “not REALLY lies.” In short you will deny, minimize and project your defenses on “the left” as the REAL culprits of the Bush administration.
I predict that you will do this, because I believe that one of the character flaws that conservatives have is that you guys tend to have more loyalty to your people and your cause than you do to the evidence.
Please prove me wrong.
May 18, 2009 @ 10:54 amFor that second one, you need to click on the “launch this project” button.
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