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Why Vote for Obama?

John on February 12, 2008 at 11:30 am

I’m stealing this from Allah at HotAir because it’s just too good for him to keep to himself. At Sean Hannity’s instigation, Pollster Frank Luntz asks his captive audience to name one Obama accomplishment…

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For the record, getting elected to the Senate really is an accomplishment. I think the point here is that getting oneself elected doesn’t necessarily mean that one has bettered the world in some tangible way. It speaks to likability and good communication skills, all good things for a Presidential candidate (or a President). But what, besides winning elections, has the guy actually done for America? For his state? What has he accomplished besides winning elections while black? For goodness sake, even Ms. America has a talent competition.

As much as I’m not a huge John McCain fan, I think one could ask the same question of him and come up with quite a few serious answers.

Tell us what you think…

Update: Here’s a few reasons not to vote for him as well:

  1. His questionable fund raising practices.
  2. His willingness to meet with anti-American dictators “without preconditions”
  3. His tendency toward socialist economic policies.
  4. His desire to politically radicalize American kids.
  5. His repeated attempts to bully and silence opponents.
  6. His dishonesty about his votes on the issue of abortion.
  7. His attempt to rewrite the history of his views on the surge.
  8. His unwillingness to admit the surge in Iraq succeeded.
  9. His disrespect for small town Americans.
  10. His long time associations with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and conspiracy theorist Rev. Wright.
  11. And last but not least, his shallow record of actual accomplishments for America.

Just some things to think about.

If you’d like it all put together into one long argument with video clips, check out The Comprehensive Argument Against Barack Obama.

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72 Comments

  1. Carol Frazier

    Amazing. And he’s going to be our next president. Sigh.

    February 12, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
  2. Keith

    Carol – not wishing to impose unpalatable thoughts on you, but would you prefer Hillary or Obama?

    Speaking for myself I think I prefer mcCain over either of them, but of the two, I prefer Obama, despite his youth and inexperience.

    February 12, 2008 @ 2:27 pm
  3. Carol Frazier

    Keith – I would have to say I’d prefer Obama over Billary. It just saddens me that America has sunk to the point that a large portion of the electorate can be swayed by smooth happy talk. Change what? Everything? Some things? Which things? Plus, for the life of me, I don’t see how the most liberal member of the Senate thinks he can find common ground with conservative Republicans. Who’s going to compromise and give? Somehow, I don’t think Obama plans to uphold the partial birth abortion ban or hold the terrorists’ feet to the fire or give up on his abominable health care plan. Conservative Republicans are very unhappy with our choices and liberal Democrats are ecstatic. Not good.

    February 12, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
  4. matthew

    Incredible… He indeed is the only Black U.S. Senator serving in the 110th Congress and only the 5th ever Black man serving in the U.S. Senate.

    And I thought that young man who gave the last “accomplishment” in the video was smoking something.

    February 13, 2008 @ 6:19 am
  5. dtc

    Obama is a typical american idiot, he is the polar opposite of george w. bush, that is his attaction, but an idiot none the less. He is clueless when it comes to the direction this country needs to go. Atleast Hillary has an economic plan, and an idea on foreign relations. Obama will push us in to the worst depression this country has ever seen. I will vote republican if he is nominated and there are alot of democrats who feel the way I do.

    February 13, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
  6. Chris L

    John,

    I’m not a huge McCain fan, either, but I will go vote for him over either of these clowns. Also, I do tend to think that the GOP has a decent shot at winning this fall, no matter which of the Dems make it. Hillary would do worse than Obama, but I tend to think that his paper-thin record (as demonstrated by Hannity) will come back to bite him by November, should Hillary not find a way to rip the nom away from him…

    February 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
  7. algernon

    Sooooo anyone wanna write me a one page paper on why we should vote for obama?

    February 14, 2008 @ 7:24 pm
  8. PRCalDude

    Obama will push us in to the worst depression this country has ever seen.

    That might actually be good for the country. Think of it. Right now, we’re giving it away to the Mexicans and Muslims and greedy business owners. A little poverty might convince Americans to care a little more about one another and become a little more cohesive.

    Sooooo anyone wanna write me a one page paper on why we should vote for obama?

    Spite. McCain is evil. Moreso than Obama.

    February 15, 2008 @ 10:48 am
  9. PakiFresh93

    Sooooo anyone wanna write me a one page paper on why we should vote for obama?

    hey algernon,
    if u finished the the paper
    can u please email it to me?

    February 19, 2008 @ 6:53 pm
  10. Scott

    Paki,

    I don’t know who you are but I already like you!

    You may be asking yourself, “Why?”

    And the answer – “Flowers for Algernon” is one of my favorite stories of all time, and being a high school English teacher I use it whenever possible with my literature classes. Most people here in the States read it in 7th/8th grade but forget about it by high school (which is unfortunate because the deeper meat of the story can only be appreciated by an older/more mature reader).

    Anyway, thanks for the literary allusion!

    Or maybe I should say…Enyway, thnks four th leterary aluzion!

    February 19, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
  11. joxe

    Angel Briones
    February 27, 2008
    5th Period

    BARACK OBAMA

    Barack Obama was born to a white American mother and a black Kenyan father, who were both young college students at the University of Hawaii. When his father left for Harvard, she and Barack stayed behind, and his father ultimately returned alone to Kenya, where he worked as a government economist. Barack’s mother remarried an Indonesian oil manager and moved to Jakarta when Barack was six. He later recounted Indonesia as simultaneously lush and a harrowing exposure to tropical poverty. He returned to Hawaii, where he was brought up largely by his grandparents. The family lived in a small apartment – his grandfather was a furniture salesman and an unsuccessful insurance agent and his grandmother worked in a bank – but Barack managed to get into Punahou School, Hawaii’s top prep academy. His father wrote to him regularly but, though he traveled around the world on official business for Kenya, he visited only once, when Barack was ten.

    Obama attended Columbia University, but found New York’s racial tension inescapable. He became a community organizer for a small Chicago church-based group for three years, helping poor South Side residents cope with a wave of plant closings. He then attended Harvard Law School, and in 1990 became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He turned down a prestigious judicial clerkship, choosing instead to practice civil-rights law back in Chicago, representing victims of housing and employment discrimination and working on voting-rights legislation. He also began teaching at the University of Chicago Law School. Eventually he ran as a Democrat for the state senate seat from his district, which included both Hyde Park and some of the poorest ghettos on the South Side, and won.

    In 2004 Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate as a Democrat, representing Illinois, and gained national attention by giving a rousing and well-received keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention in Boston. In 2008 he sought the Democratic nomination for the US Presidency.

    America needs a president who is passionately anti-war. Because the war in Iraq is causing major depressive disorder in Americans, causing thousands of US soldier suicides each year (and thousands more cases of PTSD and major depressive disorder and psychotic breaks), and has caused more than 600,000 innocent civilian casualties and hundreds of thousands more displacements and injuries, for Iraqi civilians. A whole generation of Iraqis has been damaged for life whether mentally or physically and Americans need to be able to elect a president who cares about ending the war. The Iraq War is the moral issue of our time. Americans have not forgotten that we have actively been in a WAR that was created on false pretenses for several years now. Hillary Clinton, even up to the last debate last week, stubbornly defends her vote in the Senate to allow President Bush to take us to war on shaky evidence. This is a huge fundamental difference between Obama and Clinton. I cannot imagine what the psyche of our younger generations of Americans will be if after all the energy they’ve put into the electoral process and into supporting Obama the anti-war candidate, Hillary “establishment” “Clinton dynasty” comes into power. That’s why I would vote for Obama.

    February 27, 2008 @ 11:44 pm
  12. lg

    good paper i think…but just tells about what he did before and his views and focus on the war. what about taxes, healthcare, foreign policy?? I like Barack and I will vote for him!! The man grew up poor. Like a lot of poor people I’m sure he envied richer people, as most people do. But since he is black that is not ok in America. If we could even get a President in office who could actually make a speech without saying um 50 times within 20 words (thanks bush) this country would probably be a little better. At least Barack knows what words are coming out of his mouth!!

    April 4, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
  13. Steve McCullough

    Style over substance. The popularity of MySpace, YouTube, American Idol, et. al shows the rise of narcissism in America. God help us!

    April 17, 2008 @ 9:19 am
  14. Dave M.

    I’m actually a supporter of Obama, but writing a response that includes completely bogus “facts”, such as your assertion that “…is causing major depressive disorder in Americans, causing thousands of US soldier suicides each year..” only hurts your position. There are nothing like “thousands” of US soldier suicides each year, there hasn’t even been anything like one thousand US soldier suicides in the entire duration of the war so far. Even ONE suicide is deplorable, I will readily admit, but again…please, don’t throw in stupid, obviously bogus factoids in your post for dramatic measure. It just hurts you, me, and anyone else who supports Obama for real reasons.

    For information on the more realistic suicide rate amongst US soldiers, there are many studies done on the subject out there. One example with numbers that are, while saddening, are at least believable, can be found at: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19303337.htm

    April 18, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
  15. Liza Dye

    HEY i am writing a speech RIGHT NOW on why you should vote for Barack Obama! What a cowinkidink! :)

    July 16, 2008 @ 6:10 am
  16. Vote with your Heart

    I can’t for the life of me understand why folks would want
    the same old, same old. Whats has made the last 8 years so much better! Americans and the world are on their knees because of this war and its economic downfall.
    This country needs to bring the young to the top for choices in this world. They have great ideas. just ask them! They may be idealist….so what! it’s a great way to go!
    These old leaders are great to have around to recall
    past history, most reliving the hurt of wars. Wars are always a failure,times have changed so much. Also we can’t afford wars anymore, the country will crumble. So you know we need a change,we need new ideas. Positive actions.
    So…..Barak Obama will be my choice…not McCain..exsperince or not, its new ideas we want…. america.
    When wars go on, families of the dead,never,never forget their loss. And have that pain the rest of their lives. For years! People hurt for the losses!
    I went to Europe this past summer.Their tired of the bombings,killing, even of the wars long ago. They see president
    Bush as a joke a failure! Their laughing at him. In this country we see just what our leaders want us to see. Over there you see more of a worldly view. Now whats wrong with this picture. This war is one, which inturn affects the economy, around the world. Europeans also want to change the world currency to Euro’s instead of using the dollar. Less value of the dollar!
    The people of the world are both you and me. Where all together in this world. They feel the pinch there also, in some cases more.
    The world can’t be wrong! They want change of how to get the global affairs in order. But, not with violence. Remember the good die in wars as well as the others. If you don’t open talks, that just crazy!
    Did you know The human species are the only species that have killed more of
    their own than any other species. And we are the most intelligent of all species. Their is a dark side (negative),and, 911 will be a dark period. We can not be complacent as our Gov. leaders had shown. And they were for warned.I don’t want to place blame just show awareness….
    Remember That old saying Love not war……it still stands true…My self I love to live in a “high level of spiritual concousness in a positive light, not lower levels of spiritual concousness, in negative darkness! Change can happen with positive attributes.
    Taking of human life never solved anything.
    One last note….
    These radio talk host just constantly stirring up turmoil. They say they don’t,but, they do!……Negative brings more Negative….just be positive….feel good about yourself and choices in life listen to a more positive outlook…..Vote with your heart! Take care America…..Love all the people of the World…

    July 26, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
  17. Ben O

    You bash him for not having an accomplishment. How about being in the run for president? If any one you ran for president you’d be F**KED! What’s the point, money is what runs the election. Mccain and Obama are there for a reason, probably the biggest reason is because of the money they have to persuade us that they are the two best for president. In the Country…really? That sucks

    July 27, 2008 @ 12:06 am
  18. Wcoyne

    Reasons established thus far on why to vote for Obama.

    1) Anti-War
    2) Young
    3 He was poor
    4) He doesn’t say Ummm..
    5) New ideas

    For 17 responses this is fricken weak!

    Then take in to consideration
    that he has changed his position towards the middle on the war. That he does say ummmm.. all the time (Just watch him without a teleprompter), and that most if not all his ideas have been proposed or tried by other presidents and candidates (Start with Jimmy Carter).

    My enemies do not care as much about human life as i do. They know this, and bank their entire strategy on it. Thats why you draw a line your enemy does not cross and put soldier behind it. Thats what war is. You cannot wish it away.

    August 5, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
  19. COMMON SENSE

    GREAT WORDS THERE Wcoyne.

    History tells the future…being young does nothing for such an IMPORTANT POSITION. EXPERIENCE is the key. Unfortunately NONE of the candidates are worthy of the position of President of this great country. And it’s even more unfortunate that we must choose the lesser of two evils. They are both lying through there pie holes. But hey, they are politicians. CHANGE THAT! AMERICA NEEDS CHANGE ALL RIGHT…but we won’t get the change we need. In my opinion voting for your ideal is irresponsible it’s not just about “you”…it’s about the country as a whole. What a mess… :(

    August 7, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
  20. Tatiana B

    Mcaine just wants to turn us into slaves!VOTE FOR OBAMA!

    August 16, 2008 @ 4:26 am
  21. Jim

    A well reasoned argument Tatiana – hard to refute. I heard McCain will require that we change our underwear daily. We will have to wear our underwear on the outside so that the government authorities can check (stolen from Woody Allen’s “Bananas”).

    August 16, 2008 @ 10:21 am
  22. Carol Frazier

    Tatiana – It’s Sen. Obama who wants to make it mandatory to “volunteer” in some sort of civilian public service program. I believe that’s pretty close to slavery. But, you know, it’s for the “greater good”, like “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”, etc. I’m sure you’ve heard that before – it’s called communism.

    August 16, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
  23. Rick Frueh

    It was Pres. Bush who not only let Putin off his leash, but he vouched world wide for his credibility. Perhaps if we had taken a more guarded approach to Putin and his pursuit of “democracy” he might not have felt so empowered.

    As it is, all we have is hollow words spoken by both candidates. The saber rattling foreign policy practiced by McCain is so “WW II”. We may want to construct a more nuanced and intelligent approach that can achieve some success apart from weapons. The Russians are not afraid of us, now what?

    August 16, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
  24. Jim

    Putin’s a thug, the former head of the KGB. But to be consistent, any problems that exist in this world or in our own personal lives must be blamed on George W. Bush. After all, he is Hitler…and McCain is the antichrist.

    August 16, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
  25. Rick Frueh

    Hard to refute! :lol:

    August 16, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
  26. K

    Someone earlier in posts said that Obama is the opposite of Bush, therefore making him an idiot.
    May I ask..
    what exactly are your views on Bush?
    Because my opinion of HIM was that he was the idiotic one.
    Please, try and make me believe otherwise(;

    -I fully support Obama.

    August 26, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
  27. Rick Frueh

    I want to publicly express my appreciation to Scott and John for not exposing my obvious prophetic shortcoming in predicting Hillary would be president. I am now exposed as being no prophet, and now my financial support has vanished!!

    Ihave no choice but to do lunch with Todd Bentley and plot a new course!! :lol:

    August 27, 2008 @ 5:46 am
  28. bipin

    bush government is corrupt; pays tax amount for weapons and killing. vote obama atleast money is used in education and health sectors…..

    August 27, 2008 @ 4:24 pm
  29. Jim

    BIPIN:

    Tell yo mama
    No Obama

    August 27, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
  30. Sarah Harrigan

    Do any of you here get “news” from sources other than FOX news? I feel sorry for many of you and pray for you! The Republicans don’t preach or uphold Jesus’ messages.

    In the same breath, conservatives says I’m pro gun and pro life without realizing the contradiction.

    Please please (beyond abortion) think about how many lives the democrats can assist in much the same way Jesus did.

    God Bless you!

    August 29, 2008 @ 7:39 pm
  31. John

    Sarah,

    The Republicans don’t preach or uphold Jesus’ messages.

    Unlike, say, Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright…?

    Please please (beyond abortion) think about how many lives the democrats can assist in much the same way Jesus did.

    Are they going to miraculously heal people and then cleanse them of sin? I think you’ve taken the Obama veneration a step too far.

    August 29, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
  32. Carol Frazier

    Sarah – it’s not any political party’s job to uphold or preach the message of Jesus – politics is a secular enterprise and any time the two are mixed, it’s religion that loses. (This is why I surprised my liberal friends by not supporting Huckabee).

    What the Republican party used to stand for (and hopefully will again) is personal responsibility, protection of the unborn, upholding traditional marriage, the rule of law – not man, limited government, etc. These are for the most part Judeo-Christian values.

    What the Democrat party stands for is abortion at any time for any reason with no restrictions, bigger and bigger government programs, treating people as victims instead of as adults capable of managing their own lives, class warfare (oh, those evil, rich business people! – Hint – they’re employers – you can’t hate employers and love employment), on and on.

    What it comes down to is that the Republican party platform is more in line with what most Christians believe than the platform of the Democrat party.

    As for guns -you’re going to have to explain to me how defending one’s life and family against criminals, as well as hunting, are contradictory to a pro-life view.

    August 30, 2008 @ 6:24 am
  33. Jim

    Sarah:
    I too fell sorry for these hapless Republicans. As we all know, Bush is not only Hitler reincarnate, but there’s good evidence to suggest that he’s the antiChrist! I didn’t get this on Fox news. These revelations came to me one evening as I was contemplating my navel while channeling positive energy directly into the brain of your Messiah and mine, Barack Hussein Obama.

    And this vice presidential choice? She is a pro-gun, pro-life, “I won’t take care of you from the womb to the tomb” nut. I know she must have sin in her life and I’m asking Christians everywhere to pray that she repents of being a Republican. Now if you’ll excuse me, I must get back to my Brian McLaren spirituality tapes – after I achieve Oneness, I’m going to move on to Twoness.

    August 30, 2008 @ 10:30 am
  34. Nick

    I feel like many people are going to vote for Obama for all the wrong reasons.

    September 4, 2008 @ 5:17 am
  35. Lando

    “I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully.”-not obama

    “Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.”-not McCain

    …so either way we will be better off.
    But please dont vote for McCain. Do me a favor, for my future. Im 18 and dont really want to go to Iran. They have the fourth or fifth largest amount of oil, behind iraq, so they must be next to invade. Do something to bring about real change and vote for Ron Paul. Why not, hes got some great plans for our future. At least obama has good ideas. McCain has nothing but more war, more debt, mortgage crises etc, just more bush. i beg you. no mcCain.

    September 7, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
  36. Whit

    Honestly I can’t believe that you are using a FoxNews clip to make any sort of argument. What does it even matter what these everyday people know or don’t know? FoxNews will present any and every piece of material regarding politics so that it reinforces the bias convictions of their conservative viewers. Their is absolutely nothing fair or balanced about it. The main reason I am voting for Obama is because despite what arrogant americans like to believe, we DO need the rest of the world on our side. And Obama is internationally affable and has diplomatic talent. He is culturally and globally minded, and will improve our world image. This article sums up why I personally think he is the right choice for 2008.

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1695803,00.html

    As far as his accomplishments go. Obama has many, both before and after the senate. For a brief list of what he’s done in the senate, go to this site…

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×4578207

    September 8, 2008 @ 1:26 am
  37. Jim

    Speaking of media bias, did anyone catch the worship belched forth on behalf of the Messiah from CNN last night. You would have thought the entire program was produced by the DNC. Two memoirs, no legislation, a resume as thin as a piece of toilet paper, but he reads well off of a teleprompter so let’s make him the next president. Again, the dumbing down of America continues.

    By the way, I disqualify anyone from consideration for the presidency if the Europeans like him.

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:34 am
  38. Nicholas, Forbes

    “He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.”
    Albert Einstien.

    I firmly believe that one of the most brilliant minds in all of history would vote for Obama, despite the fact he loathed politics, And If we all expanded our mind I do not believe there would be such segregation, not by race but by Class, and political party. Hands down Obama is the candidate!!!

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:14 pm
  39. Nicholas, Forbes

    # Carol Frazier August 16, 2008 @ 3:38 pm

    Tatiana – It’s Sen. Obama who wants to make it mandatory to “volunteer” in some sort of civilian public service program. I believe that’s pretty close to slavery. But, you know, it’s for the “greater good”, like “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”, etc. I’m sure you’ve heard that before – it’s called communism.

    narrow minded fool! our country is in shambles, kids today do nothing but waste away resources appreciating nothing. If you think volunteering is slavery then you must not have had parents growing up? would you disagree that wasting Americans lives on a war in Iraq to convert their ancient culture to a democracy is a Just cause? I wish to hear Intelligent banter next time you open your mouth on this forum. Nicholas, Forbes Age 19.

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
  40. Nicholas, Forbes

    Whit September 8, 2008 @ 1:26 am

    Whit I think you and I might see eye too eye. Global Unity is one step closer too peace!!
    Peace is not obtained by controlling resources…. we are not in the dark ages anymore, even though we are starting to carry the same class structure.

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
  41. Nicholas, Forbes

    this one is for the religious nuts supporting bush.

    “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind”

    The next president, Albert Einstien.

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
  42. Rights ??? what rights?

    Without the young minds the world would be a blank canvas. If Mcain is elected I foresee a major surge of young people taking back (OUR) Canvas.

    Sincerely, peaceful poison.

    September 8, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
  43. Jim

    The idiotic quote by Einstein concerning war would not have worked against Hitler. If the anti-war loonies had there way, Europe would be goose-stepping to the commands of Hitler’s grandson.

    Nicholas, lots of posts in a very short time – all of them deviod of serious thought. Put the bong down bro and clear your head.

    September 9, 2008 @ 8:08 am
  44. Danielle

    I dont know anyone in their right mind who would actually vote for McCain. What is wrong with you republicans?!? Has the last 8 years not been enough for you? If McCain is elected president, this country is DESTROYED, and no democrat who is elected in the future will ever be able to fix it. Get a clue, GO OBAMA!!!! =)

    September 9, 2008 @ 8:41 pm
  45. Jim

    Danielle – what a cogent statement. I suggest you start rehab immediately.

    September 9, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
  46. lauren

    1 reason to vote for obama – McCain promised NOT to play dirty – and now he twists and manipulates people into believing his lies.

    For example, he recently published a commercial claiming obama voted for sex ed for kindergardeners. Truth: Obama Voted for education to teach kids about SEXUAL PREDATORS. Big difference.

    As a Christian, I dont believe that this is the kind of man i want to lead my children. I want my children to see America elect a man who is honest and wins elections on his merits, not on creating a bad rap for his opponent.

    September 12, 2008 @ 9:23 am
  47. Jim

    As a Christian I can’t vote for a man who believes in killing children while they’re in their mother’s womb. Scripture makes it clear that God knows the unborn before their birth – He believes them to be a person. I’ll take a guy who may distort someones record (all politicians do this) over a pro-death baby killer.

    September 12, 2008 @ 9:59 am
  48. John

    Lauren,

    Obama promised a “new kind of politics” yet he has offered plenty of distortions of his own.

    September 12, 2008 @ 10:13 am
  49. Lurkers Wife

    Actually, Obama is the one who’s lying. The bill he voted for states, specifically, “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”

    Obama’s claiming now that he really meant that 5 and 6 year olds should be instructed to reject pedophiles, but that’s not what he voted for. What he voted for was a bill extending comprehensive sex education to kindergarten, which education shall include instruction about STDs and HIV.

    You can discover the truth in this matter by following the paper trail, not by listening to the candidate’s attempt to cover up or distort legislation that he fought for.

    September 12, 2008 @ 10:19 am
  50. Jim

    And, of course, there’s been no deliberate distortion by Obama and his people concerning Gov. Palin.

    September 12, 2008 @ 10:52 am
  51. kaye

    Jim, why didn’t you just run for president? You’re selfish enough to do it, I’m sure.

    You can’t pick and choose what part of the Bible you want to listen to.
    As a Christian, I don’t feel it’s fair for all of these other “Christians” to impose their extremist opinions on me! We apparently believe in the same God…so why are you such a jerk!? Love thy neighbor, Jim.
    If my sixteen year old sister gets pregnant, and she makes the decision to keep it…that’s a DECISION. Not her ONLY option. My sixteen year old sister should not be rearin’ children, for many reasons.

    As a Christian, I can’t believe (though I’m forced to since I know many others like you) that people like you actually exist. And worse, they become political figureheads. All in the name of God and America. You’re not God and you’re not America. It’d be really great if executive decisions weren’t made in support of a one religion agenda. I am free to celebrate and practice my Christianity and my lifestyle. Why are you so against others doing the same? Let others be free to commit their own small-time sins, as everyone is going to do, without legal retribution. It’s between God and them, not them and the LAW.

    I’m not God, but I’m pretty sure that when it comes to morals, murdering thousands of Iraqi Civilians for the sake of democracy is probably worse than having an abortion. Having a president that is okay for continuing that, and putting our soldiers in a dangerous position for “100 years if we have to” (I’m paraphrasing here, but not much–scary) will deplete any resources we have left. I’m not an Obama lover or Clinton lover any anything like that, but we’re supposed to grow not regress. We’re supposed to put our Country First, according to McCain, but I don’t see any of that. I don’t want 4 more years of Bush, and I feel that is what is going to happen with McCain.

    So Jim, please take God out of your arguments and comments. God has nothing to do with this. Politics are secular (or should be) as it was stated above. You’re a Republican. That’s it. You’re better off saying that than anything else you’re saying because you are just spewing out absolutely nothing and not making any valid points.

    September 13, 2008 @ 10:17 am
  52. Tim (t.q.o.)

    KAYE said:

    Let others be free to commit their own small-time sins, as everyone is going to do, without legal retribution. It’s between God and them, not them and the LAW.

    I agree KAYE. Murder should not regulated by the law of the land. It should be just between me and my God….by the way, I have this neighbor (who happens to be named KAYE) that I really dislike….God, please forgive me for what I am about to do…

    September 13, 2008 @ 11:21 am
  53. Jim

    Kaye, there’s so much to say regarding your post, but I don’t have the interest or energy to debate someone who’s okay with killing the unborn. By the way, we didn’t murder Iraqi’s, we liberated them from a murderer. As for me being a jerk (LOL), I thought you said we were suppose to love one another. Do you see the contradiction? LOL. You’re a morally confused person. By the way, I’m actually relieved that my existence bothers you. Please read other sites on this blog were I have contributed – that should get your head spinning. LOL.

    September 13, 2008 @ 11:54 am
  54. Cindy

    Kaye wrote:
    I don’t feel it’s fair for all of these other “Christians” to impose their extremist opinions on me!

    Christians don’t impose their opinions, they follow the Bible.

    You might want to check out Exodus chapter 20…

    September 13, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
  55. Jim

    I don’t think we’ll ever hear from Kaye again. I think it’s lost on her that our system of jurisprudence was based on the Decalogue. All laws have their basis in morality – you can’t separate the two (that was the point Tim was making).

    We get a lot of these liberal “hit and run” shots here at VS. I’d enjoy them more if the liberals would stick around. They’re fun to play with.

    September 13, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
  56. Erin

    Obama08′

    why would you vote for someone that is a clone of bush? i absolutely do not like mccain and he will never get my vote. when he dies of old age in a year sarah palin the alaskan governor will be president, something i truly look forward to. mccain and palin have so much scandal, really mccain you have to back out of the debate because you need to fix the crisis? last time i checked we still have senators and other people running this country in DC. you won’t be doing much. and the letterman stunt he pulled, way classy. let’s get serious obama and biden are what this country needs right now.

    September 27, 2008 @ 9:51 am
  57. Jim

    We need Obama and Biden about as bad as we need the public education system that taught you how to write.

    September 27, 2008 @ 10:46 am
  58. marie messer

    i thought obama wasnt going to take monry for his campaine..but i just got off a web site( his home web site)asking me to give money to support him..THATS WRONG….i dont like either person right now..neither one of them answer any questions..just alot of “my friends from macaine and(let there be no misunderstanding”from obama ..man just answer the questions like what are you going to do for sure.. for the american person..and please no b.s

    October 14, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
  59. tcoffey

    obama all the way/he may support obortion but if yhe mom has a disease that would kill the mother if the child is born then you should go a head and save one life instead of taken one(if anyone has problem with waht i said leave a comment on my youtube account:tcoffey1224)

    October 20, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
  60. Tia

    Krauthammer got it right when he stated the case for his vote:

    “The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism. An apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. A nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation. A rising Russia pushing the limits of revanchism. Plus the sure-to-come Falklands-like surprise popping out of nowhere.
    Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who’s been cramming on these issues for the past year, who’s never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateralism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of “a world that stands as one,” and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as “the tragedy of 9/11,” a term more appropriate for a bus accident? “

    Krauthammer adds:

    “McCain’s critics are offended that he raised the issue of William Ayers. What’s astonishing is that Obama was himself not offended by William Ayers. [emphasis added] “

    October 24, 2008 @ 6:25 am
  61. Jim

    Tia, the problem with your post is that you mention to many facts. To support Obama, one must ignore facts. One must also commit intellectual suicide. By the way, Obama would never be upset associating with Ayers or Rev. Wright or the other goofballs he’s palled around with. He likes what they have to say as does the MSM. We’re in for a terrible four years. God help us (or could it be that God is allowing us to collectively receive the consequences of our nation’s slide into the moral sewer?).

    October 24, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
  62. Emily

    I think Obama should be president. Here are some reasons. We should have our taxes doubled. The money from taxes are going to go to schools, build highways ect. If our taxes are lowered, we’re going to be spending the money sometime soon somehow. We need our troops out of Iraq, nothing is happening. Alot of people have lost their lives for no reason. If Mccain is president, you’re just voting for another Bush. Who cares if Obama has no experience, he says that he will make change, and that’s what we need for this country. Our economy is doing really bad. And Obama will change that.

    October 24, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
  63. Jim

    Emily, the only president to raise taxes during difficult economic times was Herbert Hoover. This led the nation into a depression. Obama wants to do the same thing. Please take a remedial class in Economics to educate yourself in these matters.

    By the way, four more years of Bush is better than four years of Obama. We could go from bad to worse in a heartbeat. I think you’re a young person so there’s no need showing the other inconsistencies in your post. I’ll give you a pass here – you’re probably a victim of our public education system.

    October 25, 2008 @ 10:02 am
  64. Alyssa

    I am a high school student who had to write an argumentative paper on anything we wanted. The topic I chose was why we as Americans should not vote for Barack Obama. The information that I have is cited and factual. I did a lot of cross referencing. I think anyone who is undecided or for Barack Obama should read this, and hopefully it will open their eyes.

    Why not to vote for Barack Obama

    The 2008 Presidential Election is right around the corner. Some people are voting for Senator John McCain, some are voting for Senator Barack Obama, and some are still undecided. Choosing one of these men to run our great country should not be taken lightly, but done very carefully. Those voting for Obama and those undecided should take Senator Barack Obama’s stances into consideration.
    One of the many reasons Barack Obama should not be voted for is because of where he stands on abortion. This is a very sensitive issue with many Americans. Not only is Obama pro-choice, he also voted against banning partial-birth abortion which is abortion that can take place after the first trimester in pregnancy up until a day before the baby is delivered. Obama strongly criticized the decision upholding the partial-birth ban by the Supreme Court. He also opposed a bill that would give medical attention to infants mistakenly left alive by abortion in the Illinois state Senate (Washington Post). According to abortionist Dr. Martin Haskell who has performed over 1,000 partial-birth abortions, approximately 80 percent are done for “elective” reasons. Many who are pro-choice might try to argue that the fetus feels no pain at this stage. Professor Robert White, director of the division or neurosurgery and brain research laboratory at Case Western Reserve School of Medicine in Cleveland said “the fetus within this time frame of gestation, 20 weeks and beyond, is fully capable of experiencing pain. Without a doubt, this is a dreadfully painful experience for any such infant subjected to such a surgical procedure.” Abortions and partial-birth abortions are both horrible, but partial-birth abortions are dangerous and horrific. If the woman wanted to have an abortion, why wait until the first trimester is over? If Obama has that little regard for a human life, people need to rethink their support for him. Taking a human life is the worst crime that can be committed.
    Barack Obama wants to “spread the wealth around”. Joe Wurzelbacher, a plumber from Ohio, was playing ball with his son when he saw Obama in his neighborhood (New York Times). Joe, who was considering buying the plumbing company he worked for, approached him and asked him, “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” (Joe Wurzelbacher)”. Obama answered, “It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody” (Sen. Barack Obama). “Spreading the wealth around” may sound like a good idea to some, but to others it means not working hard and relying on those with higher incomes for money. We live in America where we have the opportunity to be anything we want to be. Men and women go out, earn money, and are entrapanuers. We should not have a government that takes from one to give to another. Senator Obama contradicts his “spread the wealth around” statement by saying “We need to steer clear of this poverty of ambition, where people want to drive fancy cars and wear nice clothes and live in nice apartments but don’t want to work hard to accomplish these things. Everyone should try to realize their full potential.” (Barack Obama). If America is going to become a country where we spread the wealth around, what would the incentive to work hard be? This is America where anyone can be anything and all they want to be.
    One more reason not to vote for Barack Obama is because of his relationships with radical people. William “Bill” Ayers was a leader of a homegrown terrorist group called Weatherman during the 1960’s. Ayers summed up the ideals of the organization by saying “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents “(Bill Ayers). In his book Fugitive Days Ayers brags that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972″ (Bill Ayers, Fugitive Days). Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for thirty bombings that were aimed at destroying the United State’s defense and security infrastructures. Ayers said in 2001 “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough” (Bill Ayers). In his book Fugitive Days, Bill Ayers said on whether or not he might use bombs against the U.S. in the future, “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility” (Bill Ayers). Even though Ayers admitted to these attacks by saying he was “guilty as sin, free as a bird”, he could not be charged with anything because of improper surveillance. When Barack Obama decided to run for the Illinois Senate in the 1970’s, Bill Ayers welcomed him into his own home, invited neighbors, and helped launch Obama’s campaign. Bill Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago in 1999 and served as director alongside of Obama. Ayers also made presentations to board meetings which were chaired by Obama, and spoke for the Chicago School Reform Collaborative before Obama’s board. Obama and Ayers are neighbors and Obama has spent time in his home, yet Senator Obama says he does not have a relationship with this man and was “ignorant of Mr. Ayers’ past terrorist acts” (Barack Obama). Is this the kind of man we want as president of the United States? Do we want someone who has a relationship with a former terrorist who wishes he would have done more? This is just one of several radical persons who Barack Obama calls his “friends”. Obama said of these relationships “Frankly, when you live the kind of lifestyle that I have, it’s hard to make friends. You take what you can get, and you don’t ask a lot of questions. These guys are the best I could do.” I would hope that our next president could do better.
    These are just a few of the many reasons as to why we as Americans should not give our vote to Barack Obama. During his campaign, he has not been clear on where he stands and has not been detailed in any of his viewpoints. He has flip-flopped on so many issues that it’s hard to figure out what he stands for. Obama’s main slogan is “change”. Is this change for the better or the worse? The United States of America is the greatest country in the world. Is change really what we want?

    November 3, 2008 @ 10:20 am
  65. Carol Frazier

    Alyssa – you go, girl!

    November 3, 2008 @ 12:03 pm
  66. Wakefield Tolbert

    John,

    You, and some others, have done an admirable job in compiling these handy lists on why NOT to vote for the New Messiah from Chicago’s heavy hit politics (where if you’re found to be a registered Republican you’ll get your tires slashed and your garbage might pile up outside the driveway).

    But what is MORE disturbing than all the above (and I say this as a student who didn’t do too badly with my own grades in political science and western philosophy)is WHY this is not having any noticable affect. I pondered this today while standing in the cloudy weather after closing the car door.

    John McCain surely could have done a better job. Some commentators are doing theirs. The Republicans for their part have not played their cards right and on some issues might as well be singing the praises of illegal immigration and drivers’ licenses and free health care and schooling for all, in addition to all the “recently” released stuff about coal CapN’ Trade.

    And government got larger under Bush and yes Reagan as well. Not good footing to stand on. And we nor the libertarian types nor the social conservatives had more than a timid answer on HOW to ameliorate the abortion or homosexual or other culture contrast issues.

    True enough.

    But I think the problem here is more profound than any of this critique.

    We can muddle through much. And welcome to Muddle Earth, all ye Hobitts. But the populace has decided, for better or worse (probably worse, even though cultures respond to big government differently), that we are to be Sweden. This is what is wanted. Our enemies are like hornets. Leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone. No biggie. Right?

    Iran is a little itty bitty nation and nuclear weapons will not pose a threat cuz we’ll just “merely” blow the Islamic kingdoms into the next Kingdom. No worries, says Obama. Deterrence based on running scared from Iraq will show the rascals.

    Or so we’re told.

    Nothing to worry about in taxing the rich. They deserve it. Spread the wealth around. Never mind the fact that not ONCE has Obama mentioned or been seen inclined to believe in business or ownership issues and the complexities therein. It’s all hogwash to his eggheadedness from his days as a fresh radical with the wind to the back about “change.”

    What better organization than government to run business, tell us how energy policy is to be doled out–and not a few pizzas also?

    Free health care for all! Being on a waiting list for 18 months for an MRI is not so bad, right?

    We’ll never see rationing. OUR experience with bureacratic oversight in health care will be pristine.

    Children sing paeans to the “changy-change” in “impromptu” gatherings of schoolkids.

    And in what is shaping up to probably be a rather cold winter while global warming’s Laodicean hellfire pulls ice from under the cuddly polar bears, who could argue with hiking electric rates?

    Drill for oil? HOW DROLL!

    Not bad for grandma. Or his illegal aunt for whom the wealth was not spread from one Obama household to another?

    And Bill Ayers? Khalidi and the Jew haters who to this day make laughable noises about the destruction of the whole state of Israel? Surely the evidence of bus bombings and seeing Jewish children blown apart in stores and markets means little. No worries there either. Stop the SMEARING!

    I point these and more things (like your list) out to people in this kind of mockery and they just glare at me as if I turned purple or asked them how tasty children are.

    The point is that no one cares anymore. We had responsibe politics in yesteryear, and that worked in this brief instant of this transformation. But the problem is that responsive politics has had its day in the sun. In following the Euro path we’ve marched down a road where the choices are no longer questions about “issues” or great ideas or foreign policy, but sumptious handouts and benefits.

    Call us when we get back from the beach, the people say. This insulation from reality is what is about to place Obama and his cohorts in power. And once government has this kind of power grab, even IF more conservative chaps grab a rebound off some single issue (most unlikely for the time being), the overall power is eternal. Like plutonium, government intervention in the economy and into personal affects never goes away.

    The NEA has again released their many “resolutions”

    The National Everything Association, err, I mean, the National EDUCATION Association, now says the following, long story short:

    No more guns.

    No more vouchers, and sure as hell no more homeschooling. Bad for the union, err, I mean, the kids….

    Heather not only has two mommies, your 5 year old needs to know about this also.

    Christians are morons.

    Deenie is great earth-shattering literature that stands along side Lord of the Rings for all time..

    International Law supercedes US law…

    And for the other unions and their minions and myrimadons in the media (welcome to alliteration station!), the story is much the same.

    Beyond these culture war issues, as they are now derided, there is the simple fact that Person A has more money than Person B. This needs to be corrected. No quarter is given, other than obvious misfortune, to the notion that trying and striving and education and hard work and sweat equity and brains and innovations are the real path to money and practical success. For the Obamanites, just as a meteor wheeling in from space might hit a city and cause horrid misfortune, by contrast some are sitting around the pool one day having a martini and money falls in their lap due soley to their style and panache and charm. That’s how you get rich. It falls into the lap.

    Fortune. Misfortune. Black and White. Sun and Moon. earth and sky. The Supreme Dialectic sees things just this way.

    So does Barack Obama. But he’s merely the point man. The harlequin in this play with a stage set by others long ago. From the hippies grubbing for leftover melon rinds at Woodstock to the folk singers who became the political pilgrims in Joe Stalin’s early days before the famines and “80 years of bad weather” ruined Soviet agricultural wisdom of another kind of collectivism, this has been brewing for a long, long time.

    The American people are very pragmatic. From a philosophical point this is both good and bad. Good in that it has for decades derailed the ideological designs of people of a Marxian bent who never responded well to criticism and avoided direct sales pitches due to not having their own act together on how to present such notions. That is changing, as you see. Bad, in that pragmatism is NOT a real philosophy per se, but a leaching process on the mish mash of other ideas. Often see as “common sense” and ust living through the trials of life, such “common sense” serves one well until the questions are difficult and the moral decisions much more complicated. Pragmatism depends heavily on those wise decisions that came before; cultural, technical, and saavy insights and plain folks morals, and we’re running low on all the above. But even good pragmatism is a snake that can turn to bite you.
    Need more money? Government is here to help. Having trouble with your mortgage? Not your fault for not reading the contract. Government is here to help.
    Think its funny to mock Joe the Plumber and his crybaby concerns about getting rectal probing for asking one too many fresh questions?

    We got you back.

    We no longer care about any of this. We care about what someone has that we can now get into our pockets with little or no liability on our part. And to see others punished for being superior, or wealthier. And to have government coddle us right down to everyday decisions involving cars, kids, food at the store, and what’s on the tube. We have decided we need 350 cable channels and lots of “choice”, but not for schools, guns, healthcare, fuel, or food.

    tsk tsk

    November 3, 2008 @ 1:59 pm
  67. Jim

    Alyssa – fabulous. An A+.

    November 3, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
  68. Matt

    “Change” – “Dream” – “Hope”…

    Ok – for example Oabama wins – who are they going to blame in 4 years from now then?!

    Haha!

    November 3, 2008 @ 8:15 pm
  69. Salman

    Great Post! I found another great post on:

    “Why Vote for Obama?”

    Are there any democrats here?

    November 4, 2008 @ 6:51 am
  70. Alyssa

    Thank you Carol and Jim. I just have to say to Lauren…
    Obama said himself that he wanted to have a better sex education program for kindergarteners, and that may include protection from sexual predators, but it still is sex education.

    And Matt….They might actually try to pin it on George Bush seeing as everything is his fault. Anyone who thinks that G.W. hasn’t accomplished anything in his 8 years of office should research some of him accomplishments.

    November 4, 2008 @ 7:36 am
  71. JoanofArc

    Help me to understand!
    When Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese, all Japanese people in the U.S. were looked upon with suspicion. They were taken into custody due to the uncertainty of their loyalty to the U.S. No one disputed its purpose. The security of our country was of utmost importance.
    Today this would not be handled in the same way. However, as the result of the attack on New York by Muslim terrorists, anyone with Muslim ties regardless of their age at the time of their exposure, should have required a full investigation before they qualified for any governmental position to assure the national security of our country. Why was this not done and how can we readily accept the following situations with such little concern?
    • Obama’s submission of an illegible and possible fraudulent birth certificate to substantiate his citizenship and identify of his actual parents.
    • Upon request for resubmission, he postpones submitting same even when notified by nine states filing suits against him. Then he arrogantly refuses to respond and fails to meet the specified deadline date until after the election purposely delaying the validation of same.
    Anyone else would have been charged with contempt of the court, immediately disqualified, and placed in jail. Any individual who places themselves above everyone else is not the quality of character I would want to have in a Presidential candidate in charge of our country.
    Why has Obama been given so much favoritism? We keep hearing about the racial slurs against all those who didn’t vote for Obama, when discrimination against the other candidate is fully promoted. Is it no wonder why we can never become united as a nation!
    • Do the voters have such little regard for the security of their country that they care more about the promises of grandeur they can expect to receive in payment for their vote.
    • Have they become so heavily involved in racial bias that they would vote for anyone of the black African race to substantiate their prejudice against the white race regardless of the penalty to their freedom and security of their country!
    • Has Obama’s access to tremendous campaign funds permitted corruption at the upmost levels of our government ?
    • Is our government afraid that a racial uprising could affect their re- election so they look the other way in the hope that the situation will blow over without any regard to the safety of their country?
    • According to political records (which can be found on the internet), Obama sponsored the lessening of restraints against the financial institutions prior to 2006. Then with the rest of the Democratic Party, who held the majority of votes in Congress during 2006 up through 2008, chose to look the other way when the alarm was sounded alerting Congress of a potential financial eruption involving Fannie Mae and Freddie Max. After the financial crisis finally hit in 2008, why did the Democratic Party decide to place all the blame on the Republican Party as the culprits to disqualify them for re-election in the eyes of the American people thus leaving the Democratic Party off the hook? Anyone not considering this a means of defraud against the Republican Party have no concern for integrity of the potential presidential candidate or affiliated party. If they can’t accept responsibility for their own mistakes, how can we place the responsibility of the security of our country in their hands?
    • While both parties show receiving considerably large contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Max lobbyist, why where three individuals , (Obama, Kerry and Dodd) signaled out to received over $100,000 each from this group? Accepting the individual candidate’s answer without verification reflects you willingness to be deceived at any cost.
    • Why does a payment from Obama’s campaign funds to Acorn for $800,000 to secure voter registration not be scrutinized by their own people? If this does not raise concern by his own people alone, it is cause for concern! Have his people merely become puppets, which will do almost anything to please him without question?
    • How can an unknown individual rise so quickly from a “Joe the Lawyer” position to that of Illinois Senator, to now become a Presidential candidate, with a blatant Muslin name in addition to affiliation with a foreign power and yet not demand a full verification of his origin and ties in the very beginning by the Democratic Party, the FEC and FBI? Had this been properly accomplished by the Democratic Party together with the FEC and FBI, the magnitude of issues being approached now, and a possible racial upheaval could have been avoided. How can one accept such a critical oversight and attempt to defraud the people without criminal charges being filed against Obama and the Democratic Party and anyone else involved?
    • What did the Muslim terrorist mean when they said “they would raise the flag at the White House”? Does that mean Obama will be the one raising the flag on their behalf? Ask yourself that questions without bias if you can!
    • I do not understand why the African American voter, the Democratic Party and other disgruntled voters could not have taken the initiative to request an independent investigation to clear up Obama’s name and all of the controversy when the questions first arose, instead of accepting the candidate’s excuses that the Republican Party is jealous and are making up stories. Such little regard for a potential civil uprising between the black and white American people is inexcusable. Concern for both parties could have avoided a lot of the controversy.
    No wonder wars will always be on the horizon. As long as people disregard the opinions of others, fail to properly identify their qualification to a position of high authority, and deliberately refuse to provide quantifiable answers and documentation, yet find it so easy to criticize the other for beliefs other than their own, our country will remain divided. The saying united we stand (I hope will be possible in the future, it certainly is not now), divided we fall (seems to be more prevalent every day when individuals take the easy way out and fall victim to propaganda and the brain washing techniques used throughout this campaign). What is wrong with you people don’t you have a mind of your own? If you did you wouldn’t be so easily influenced and you would want to get more involved and go after the answers. The internet is a great resource for history and contains a lot of information on the functions of our government and how our President, Senators and House of Representatives perform. Shame on those that don’t make the effort to really see what is happening. Then the possibility does exist you would be making a more intelligent decision than listening to empty promises by both candidates.

    If you cannot provide answers to the above (supported by actual facts) and take the easy way out, your minds have been corrupted by propaganda and visions of grandeur and have used racial prejudice to guide you.

    If you choose to do your own impartial investigation and find in your own mind there are areas that do need further investigations and you decide not to take action (whether it be because of fear of retaliation by your friends, family or piers) then you have not only sold out your own people but your country as well and have the desire to remain part of the conspiracy.

    Since our country is in such financial difficulty, anyone believing that additional programs involving education, health care and another stimulus packages will be possible have not gained much knowledge in the workings of our government. Our government cannot continue to write checks for money they do not have. The consequences is that we sell out more and more of our country to compensate for the excessive debt . The government has already sold a number of our toll roads, bridges, highways, closed military sites, an heaven knows what else, to foreign entities. Before long we won’t even have the freedoms we have today.
    Those doubting the truthfulness of this information, need only to use their fingers and go into the internet. You may be shocked beyond belief, I was?
    Consider the fact that over $5.3 billion has been spent for this year’s presidential and congressional elections. 85% to 90% is provided by big business, industry, organizations, and committees not to mention the lobbyist to secure favors from our political groups leaving only 10% to 15% of bargaining power by the American people. Just how much power do you believe that will provide us with when it comes to legislation that will favor our needs versus those of the above.

    In addition, the cost of these campaign contributions must be born by someone, and guess who that someone is, the consumer, you and me. Do you still wonder why our healthcare, energy, gas, food, education, home ownership, automobiles, etc. have constantly been rising? Every four years, the political election with their campaign contributions take place all over again, and the corporate elite throw more money into the ring again.
    Fully knowing this, your Senators, House of Representatives and Presidential candidates of both parties make empty promises they know will never be fulfilled. They will throw in a few bones here and there but they will never warrant the sacrifices each of us are making by accepting the out of control spending and bribery that affects us all.

    To say that one party over the other conducted a cleaner campaign would be unrealistic. Each used different versions of dirty tactics, one more subtle but just as deadly as the other. I am not sure any campaign over the last 24 years have been that different except for the increase in Campaign contributions secured to purchase the American vote.

    It is a shame that the American voter could not demand each candidate merely state what their platform represents and leave it up to the voter to ascertain which one will more adequately provide what they feel is needed by their standards and not that of the political parties. Then the $5.3 billion received in campaign contributions, from big business, industry, organizations and committees and lobbyist alike could be drastically reduced which not only would eliminate the effect of inflation but could curtail the increased cost to consumer prices for each of us.

    A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. A traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. A comment made by a Roman Statesman perhaps during the fall of the Roman Empire.

    Any citizen, Democratic or Republican alike should want to be sure they have placed the right individual not someone, who is of foreign origin with a Muslin background, even if a citizen by one parent . I cannot remove the picture from my mind of Obama in Muslin garb taken when he was 18-20 years old. Saying he has never been a Muslin and has never practiced Islam leads me to question by his he wearing Muslin garb.

    I do not trust this man. The need to avoid infiltration of foreign (potential) enemies from gaining power within the confines of any high governmental office of allowing influence by association with foreign or radical groups should always be our utmost concern over that of keeping in favor with the majority or in appeasing ones appetite for racial conquest. I don’t consider myself a racist as I would have voted for any African American that was in good standing like Powell or Nutter. It’s the blatant disregard for our safety that bothers me when individuals are so eager to put an assumed African American or a black Muslin in the White House at any cost? What are we thinking!

    If you have seen this communication, then there is still hope for us for censorship has not been used to stifle the American freedom of speech.

    November 12, 2008 @ 9:19 am
  72. Kate W

    At least 7 of those 11 “reasons” are false rumors spread by his opposition. They only serve to breed distrust of our future President based on inaccurate slander. If those are the arguments you’re resorting to, don’t even bother trying to influence other people’s opinions.

    November 17, 2008 @ 8:50 pm

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