Will This Be the Weekend That ObamaCare Dies?
Morgen on November 6, 2009 at 4:37 pm
With the announcement today that the House vote on ObamaCare will likely be delayed past Saturday (because Pelosi does not have the votes), I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wonder whether the entire effort is on the verge of collapsing. Lingering issues over abortion funding and immigrant access to government healthcare are getting all the headlines. And perhaps some finessing over these issues is all that stands in the way of the bill passing in the House. But the real threat to the success of ObamaCare is lurking right beneath the surface. In truth, most Democrats in the House like the bill only slightly more than the Republicans who despise it.
In late July, 60 members of the House progressive caucus signed a letter to Speaker Pelosi clearly stating that they would not vote for a bill which did not include a public option based on Medicare rates. It’s an open secret that these members have long been in favor of a single payer system, and a “robust” public option has become code for a system which more rapidly leads in this direction. The only problem is that the bill Pelosi is bringing to a floor vote does not include a public option based on Medicare rates, but rather rates negotiated by the HHS Secretary.
And even more galling to these hardcore single payer supporters, Pelosi today reneged on an earlier promise to allow a floor vote on single payer as a substitute for the entire bill. Of course this measure was never expected to pass, but it was viewed by liberals as a symbolic opportunity to demonstrate their preference for single payer as the best solution. And it was a hard won deal by progressives for not balking at earlier concessions which were given to moderate Democrats in order to pass the bill out of committee. So the fact that the House leadership backed out of this commitment at the eleventh hour can’t sit well with many of them.
Then you have a group of over 50 moderate, “Blue Dog” Democrats – many of whom would prefer having no public option at all, and almost all of whom are extremely uncomfortable with the $1.2 trillion price tag of the bill. And even more so after the election results earlier this week.
So here’s the problem. Whether the House passes a bill this weekend or not, there is absolutely no chance that the Senate will pass a bill that resembles the House version. In all likelihood, the Senate won’t even vote on a bill before the end of the year. And when they do, it’s highly unlikely that it will include a public option at all – and the total price tag is likely to be closer to the $900 billion limit set by the President. (Due to less generous insurance subsidies for middle-class workers.)
So you have a progressive caucus of Democrats who are being pressured by House leadership to support a version of a bill they have previously vowed to vote against, knowing full well that the final product will be even less tolerable to them and their liberal base. And then you have the Blue Dog caucus who are being asked to sacrifice their very careers in support of a bill that has zero chance of passing the full Congress in it’s present form.
I’ll say one thing: if Pelosi can pull this off successfully this weekend she deserves an enormous amount of credit for her political skills. (Although she may very well lose her own leadership position next year as a result.)
But what if she can’t? It’s pretty clear that the reason she is forcing a vote now is that the effort is losing momentum with each passing week. Could it survive a failed vote this weekend? Of course it won’t be put to a vote unless they are sure they have the numbers, but no amount of spin and damage control over another delay will hide the fact that they failed to pass the bill.
Here’s my prediction. Somehow, someway they will manage to pass this thing with the narrowest of margins. Perhaps by only 1 or 2 votes, and probably late Saturday night or early Sunday. But while this will undoubtably be touted as a historical achievement, it does not bode well for what is likely to be a much more difficult and extended process in the Senate. And at this stage, it’s near impossible to envision a reconciled bill that will garner enough overall support, even if the Senate is successful. Not unless the progressive caucus is prepared to completely sell out their principles.
So the Administration has a long way to go on this, even under the best case scenario. I hope it ends up being worth it to them because succeed or fail, it will be at the expense of advancing other items on their agenda. Arguably, this has turned out to be a blessing in disguise for conservatives. Cap and trade and immigration reform are now all but dead, and in just a few short months we’ve seen a massive increase in energy and support for our movement. Thanks to ObamaCare, fiscal conservatism is back.
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My initial thought when I heard about this was that it was a deception. Put people off balance, then proceed with full force. Maybe I’m being a bit paranoid, yet deception has been the hallmark of this administration.
November 6, 2009 @ 7:33 pmI think to some extent these delays could be working in their favor based on “ObamaCare fatigue”. I know I have it, and I think in general it’s hard for opponents to sustain the kind of energy that was displayed in August. Especially with the coming holidays and the distractions that go along with them.
But on the flip side they also run the risk of this process stretching into the mid-term election cycle. Not to mention the fact that it’s holding them up from pursuing other legislation. So I’m pretty sure they’d rather have it done sooner than later.
At the end of the day I think enough Democrats – in the House and Senate – will come to the conclusion that the party as a whole will suffer more if they fail to pass a bill. So pass it will. But many of them will be sacrificing their seats in doing so. I also hope at least that the public option will be sacrificed as well.
November 6, 2009 @ 7:55 pmA case of damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
Impotence or a Pyrrhic victory are their choices.
The truly ironic angle to this is that few if any democrats will take the obvious lesson from this fiasco; what they’re offering is simply something that the American public doesn’t want.
Instead of facing that simple truth, they’ll ’spin it’ in their own minds so that another ‘lesson’ is validated, such as that the ‘evil’ republicans and fox news misrepresented it and an ignorant public wasn’t ‘ready’ for it.
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November 7, 2009 @ 6:17 amI was reading in the WSJ this morning about the rates and premiums that this monstrosity will bring and they are impressive. Most people who have not been following this mess will not realize how expensive this thing will be. The mandate for an acceptable policy is going to raise rates so much that there will be no more policies to cover catastrophic emergencies only, like young people buy. Everyone will have to buy an approved policy even from private insurance companies.
November 7, 2009 @ 7:48 amThe one size fits all is on the way. Also, illegals will be able to buy into the system but will not have to comply with the IRS compliance check provisions which is where the penalties come from if you do not buy the insurance.
This thing is going to pass. There will be a bill that will makes it’s way to Obamanure’s desk. Once the implications of this bill reach full throttle then the elections next year should produce some huge wins for the Republicans. In short, we’re doomed.
November 7, 2009 @ 9:06 amNot totally doomed. The bill passed and in it there is a provision for pre-existing conditions that will save my family from financial ruin if I ever lose my job and my Cobra runs out. At least there’s a safety net available to folks like me. So I have to say that I’m not all that bothered by what happened tonight. I also hope that there’s language in the bill that will force the f….ing insurance companies to start treating autism. All of the medical services my daughter required were rejected by those greedy bastards.
November 7, 2009 @ 9:37 pm